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	<title>Comments on: How to Make a Great Designer See the Marketing Side of Things</title>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that marketing is very important in design. The point of design is to create conversions and actions for your  targeted audience. I am a designer and 90% of the time I hate working with marketers. It is not that I don&#039;t agree with what they say but they have no clue how things work. No idea about programming, no idea about colors and no idea about basic layouts.  I also hate all the books they read about how to be a web millionaire in a month etc. Also WordPress is great for blogs and small websites We are not going to develop a shitty site because you only know how to use WP. Because you had an idea a day before the site goes live doesn&#039;t mean that the designer/ developer has to eat the cost. Changing layouts and extra development costs $$$. Please don&#039;t compare all idiots out there as designers. 
As a designer the first things I collect are:
1. Target Audience
2. What is the purpose of the design what are we trying to achieve?
3. What are the brand guidelines?
4. What are some other designs/brands that did something similar you are trying to achieve?
Also  I like to meet the marketers before any design decisions are made. I use a software called MockFlow which allows me to show them my layouts and flow of web site in wires. This way we can move around CTA&#039;s  and create different tunnels that are needed to create coversions. 

So Please don&#039;t blame the designer&#039;s, find the ones that understand business and marketing and not the ones that create designs for $100. Also look at your industry and see all the bullshit that is out there. I can&#039;t wait for the day that we will all be able to work in harmony;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that marketing is very important in design. The point of design is to create conversions and actions for your  targeted audience. I am a designer and 90% of the time I hate working with marketers. It is not that I don&#8217;t agree with what they say but they have no clue how things work. No idea about programming, no idea about colors and no idea about basic layouts.  I also hate all the books they read about how to be a web millionaire in a month etc. Also WordPress is great for blogs and small websites We are not going to develop a shitty site because you only know how to use WP. Because you had an idea a day before the site goes live doesn&#8217;t mean that the designer/ developer has to eat the cost. Changing layouts and extra development costs $$$. Please don&#8217;t compare all idiots out there as designers.<br />
As a designer the first things I collect are:<br />
1. Target Audience<br />
2. What is the purpose of the design what are we trying to achieve?<br />
3. What are the brand guidelines?<br />
4. What are some other designs/brands that did something similar you are trying to achieve?<br />
Also  I like to meet the marketers before any design decisions are made. I use a software called MockFlow which allows me to show them my layouts and flow of web site in wires. This way we can move around CTA&#8217;s  and create different tunnels that are needed to create coversions. </p>
<p>So Please don&#8217;t blame the designer&#8217;s, find the ones that understand business and marketing and not the ones that create designs for $100. Also look at your industry and see all the bullshit that is out there. I can&#8217;t wait for the day that we will all be able to work in harmony;)</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Forrest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Forrest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man you couldn&#039;t have been more accurate with this article.  I am the sole designer in a marketing firm consisting of internet, information, and real estate marketers.  It&#039;s definitely hard at first (by not trying to take anything personal).  Without marketing intent and input, your design will just be that... a design.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man you couldn&#8217;t have been more accurate with this article.  I am the sole designer in a marketing firm consisting of internet, information, and real estate marketers.  It&#8217;s definitely hard at first (by not trying to take anything personal).  Without marketing intent and input, your design will just be that&#8230; a design.</p>
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		<title>By: Marjorie</title>
		<link>http://www.underworldmagazines.com/how-to-make-a-great-designer-see-the-marketing-side-of-things/comment-page-1/#comment-285307</link>
		<dc:creator>Marjorie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 06:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you think about it - people in the offline world &#039;sell&#039; their affiliate products in different ways - some have parties, some go door to door, some try to get others to sell for them, and on and on and on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think about it &#8211; people in the offline world &#8216;sell&#8217; their affiliate products in different ways &#8211; some have parties, some go door to door, some try to get others to sell for them, and on and on and on.</p>
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